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According to the president's health czar, this tax would reduce the deficit so we certainly could use cash now. david gregory says to her, do you really think congress down the going to pay for a tax increase? are they going to impose this tax increase that the congress wasn't brave enough to pass now? what would possibly be the incentive to pass it at that point? i guess to be reelected. >> i agree this is punning the tax issue to the next president whoever that might be. the other issue, this is the major pay for item to pay for the new benefits in the obama plan. the thing i'm scratching my...

Gotten something bipartisan that would have been more reasonable and -- because we had plenty of time it doesn't take effect until 2014. i make a joke, but there's some truth we had to be in session because we hadn't been in session christmas eve since 1895. >> greta: does this tax does it apply to everybody who has a cadillac plan? are unions the only ones exempted until -- >> you can have people that live side by side some are union, some are not and they are going to be treated differently that's the way the bill passed the house of representatives. no, that's the way the bill pass the sena...

Government and union workers? >> yeah. that's the way it passed the senate christmas eve. >> greta: how did the senate decide that government bourquers get a deal and everyone else didn't? set aside the unions in the senate why did government workers get a special deal? >> it is not right. it is not right. but it's strictly power politics. the power of government unions and the power of private sector unions with the democrat party. you got to remember, this was a partisan bill in is not a bipartisan where maybe you would get some moderation of these points of view. it was strictly a power pla...

Idea? >> listen, they don't need to use reconciliation. you know right this very minute, the house of representatives could convene and pass the senate bill by a majority vote. just a majority vote not a super majority in the house of representatives, go to the president right now. they don't need to use reconciliation if they are talking about getting a bill passed by 51 votes, mere majority, already passed the senate. just let the house pass it. if they want to get a health care bill right now. >> greta: the house doesn't like the senate bill. >> what are they gonna do play games? you have h...

Would pass their own bill with those modifications. >> yesterday on television my colleague was asked that question and he did not give a definitive yes. i suspect it is because they don't know i don't think it will pass the house of representatives that's where more likely to be stopped. >> greta: what is the next step? what do you understand is the next step forward? >> president is going to have something to say about in wednesday. i presume what they might do is to say they are going to have one final attempt at this, using the reconciliation process. i presume it would have to start in th...