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A lot of house democrats are saying absolutely not it is time for mr. rangel to go. >> luke stay with us a second because we have got chuck todd here, nbc news political director and chief white house correspondent and co-host of "'daily run down." you have been talking to people as well. the white house cannot be happy, the president comes out, tries to regain the platform, talk about things they have achieved this week they want to talk about financial regulation they want to talk about the extension of the jobs bill, here, the second day in a rocker third day in the row because of the shirl...

Chuck, why doesn't that translate what i hear from republicans which is that the things why they may not take the house is because of lack of fund-raising. one prominent republican told me this week they thought was the mess-up or slip-up by gibbs on david's show. maybe republicans will start donating more and maybe that will open the flood gates of fund-raising and they were excited that may encourage some republicans. if there is so much excitement on the right why hasn't that translated? >> well, i would say this. i've been interested to look at the fec reports, all of these financial repor...

That person is not electable. in most cases this is probably a more fiscally conservative republican on the ballot in states like utah, kentucky where there's another primary next week with the tea party challenger not a huge/] impact. >> greta: unless republicans get a you tough november race and can't draw the tea party people back into the fold. they get so mad they stay home. >> that's right. a couple of races where this is interesting. tea party challenger in indiana last week against dan coats they've all fallen into line behind can coats now. >> greta: senator specter has a bit of a mes...

That person is not electable. in most cases this is probably a more fiscally conservative republican on the ballot in states like utah, kentucky where there's another primary next week with the tea party challenger not a huge/] impact. >> greta: unless republicans get a you tough november race and can't draw the tea party people back into the fold. they get so mad they stay home. >> that's right. a couple of races where this is interesting. tea party challenger in indiana last week against dan coats they've all fallen into line behind can coats now. >> greta: senator specter has a bit of a mes...

Liberal, it is, as you say, a thorny issue. >> a thorny issue, we'll leave it there. next on "the clash" how to raise money on anything, even the big mess-up? james carville and mary matalin are he to look at the joy of political fund-raising. at sharp, our goal