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Chuck schumer knew it wasn't going the pass. it is fundamentally a bad bill. it is for the democrats bill, not a voting rights bill. it inhibits things. we could go through that in great detail. an hour's worth of stuff on what's wrong with it. if chuck schumer wanted to debate and have the issue he should have had it go to the senate judiciary committee so there could be amendments and discussion. he didn't do that. he brought it right to the floor. he knows it's a message bill. not a serious piece of legislation with any chance of garnering bipartisan support. >> harris: the filibuster, does...

So that might be another path forward for democrats. but then "the new york times" in an editorial makes the point that democrats are also with the for the people fighting the wrong battle. they say the legislation attempts to accomplish more than is currently feasible while failing to address some of the clearest threats to democracy, especially the prospect that state officials will seek to overturn the will of the voters. so are they fighting the wrong battle here? >> well, i mean let's first remember that this bill was written, the first bill was written as a message bill at a time when de...

Chambers as their number one priority over investigating a tragic event that unfolded in the nation's capital. that is really what this is about, that is what it boils down to. this is going to amplify the pressure to make the filibuster, but manchin is holding strong. >> donna, what is galling here's the process by which this came out, sometimes, if one party controls one house in the other party controls the other house there will be message bills. they will on-street party lines pass something with no real intentions that the house is going to take it up. it is a party line vote, you want t...

Going to happen. democrats are saying they think they have six votes, that's not the ten they need. and senate republicans, house republicans this is all about power. they're putting the idea of winning in the mid-terms and winning back control of both chambers as their number one priority over investigating the tragic event that unfolded in the nation's capitol. and so that's really what this all about, what it boils down to. and this is going to amplify the pressure to nix the filibuster. >> what's particularly galling here is the process by which this came out. sometimes if one party contro...

Involved. he put this message bill on the senate floor today. he is starting to meet with schumer. he has been talking with trump and back chaneling with him throughout. i think many people at this point, given the lack of strategy coming out of the white house, think the shutdown will blend a deal is cut between mitch mcconnell and chuck sxhoom nancy pelosi and that's when it will be done. >> we'll look for it. what we like to think of as the fastest 15 minutes in television. thanks to our guests tonight. we'll have you all back. thank you for starting off our conversation. coming up, a new o...