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Look at the virginia governor's election, the progressives and the more moderates came together to defeat the republican candidate. so now we're in the point of the general election. what mcconnell did, which i think was quite smart, but let's call it for what it is. he knows there's an enthusiasm problem in the republican party. he knows the democrats have a lot of enthusiasm. no one is talking about the possibility of republicans could lose the senate. but it is a possibility. so he is sending out his five-alarm fire. raise money, turn out. do all that stuff. what we've seen on the democrati...

Think that the white house ought to not be saying, well, he wasn't our guy. maybe a better message point would be well, michael cohen wasn't the buy the i thought he was, maybe that's a better approach tom say a guy that was your personal adviser and attorney for that long that he wasn't your eye, i think philippe is right there. i don't think that flies with the american people. every second pollster got the 2016 presidential election race wrong and to a major degree they called eight quote/unquote landslide coming. three pollsters got it right. abc was fought one of them. >> let's not reliti...

Allegation 14 and allegation 4 against scott pruitt at this point? he survived this long, what is it that's inching him towards the exits? >> there's also the irony, which is this is actually helpful to democrats. look, we don't like scott pruitt's policies, but the truth of the matter is, he is such a great -- message point in the mid-term elections about the culture of corruption. every one of his policy ideas becomes colored through all of these scandals. >> you and steve are in agreement on that. >> well, and it is exactly right. the irony is that there is a number two at epa who is a form...

He's talking about the problems that the public knows are in congress. many folks call them the career politicians who never held a job in the private sector and never signed the front of a paycheck. he's speaking as the change agent. of course, there's a process that we'd have to go through. the republicans i believe, i'd support it. i think it's a good message for him to be on because right now congressional approval ratings are in the single digits. 8%, 9%, 10%. i think it's a good message point for donald trump and he can leave the details for later. >> see, it's interesting how congressma...

At the vatican. it's interesting to see pope francis in these situations when he's with politicians. he gives one type of speech. when he's with the people, he gives another type of speech. same message, different language. he's the people's pope. he knows how to have the credibility to talk to them in simple terms about something so important like corruption. in this country like in many african countries, they suffer from the fact that a large amount of their wealth -- and they are very wealthy in natural resources -- is held in the hands of a few people. society suffers from it. that's been...