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Different ways of doing this. >> different ways in doing it. joining us now, white house reporter for the washington examiner, steve nelson. good to have you with us this morning. let's start with that spending bill and the fact that the president reversed course on it in regards to vetoing the measure when there was some indication that he was at least trying to threaten to veto he it. what was the white house's thinking with getting on board with the plan despite thats massive price tag? >> you know, president trump shocked everyone when he tweeted he was considering vetoing this $1.3 trilli...

Reporting ever tell anyone what to think. never once. >> i'm extrapolating on one of his major compelling and successful messaging points throughout this whole campaign which is don't let the establishment define you and tell you. that was the magic in the primaries. you combine ted cruz, donald trump, they were against establishment organizations. don't let people tell you who can win who and who can't win and what to think and what to believe. look at what's happened in the last couple weeks. i really appreciated joe on the set yesterday and you, as well, mika, calling out some of your colle...

The epa nominee a few weeks ago, a few months ago back, some questions. what should we be asking her? >> they do actual strategizing and research for a lot of the things to really try and stop the president's agenda and try to stop things from moving forward? >> that's what they're doing. it's exactly the agenda that you would think they would have. and they try to come up with these very nifty messaging points to win the narrative. they think they lose the narrative again and again to the left and to progressive groups. so they spend a lot of time thinking what is the right words we can use. ...

And it is kind of embarrassing, right, that a member of congress, republican members of congress have to be told this, to v to be told ton characterize all hispanics in the united states as undocumented aliens or illegals. it is embarrassing to give and presumably to receive advice like this. but it is probably practical for the gop. even with all of that practical yet embarrassing advice though, i'm guessing that it never occurred to anybody trying to rebrand the republican party for a latino audience. i'm guessing it never occurred to anybody that they might also need to directly tell rep me...

Of the structural things that threatened their existence as a party to compete nationally is latino voters. how much they do not like the republican party. right after the election within weeks of the election they made a big show at their first big national republican party reinvention pageant. they made a big show of trying to fix what's wrong with their appeal it latino voters. republican congressman got specific advice. they got a list of dos and do t don't. from a group formed to try to make la teen yoes like republicans more. . the hispanic leadership network encouraged leaders in congre...