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We have much less of a gap, i think, on many of the policy solutions than we do on this rhetorical debate about radical islam. >> my problem, adam, is we are worried about the words and what we are saying than what really matters. there are people dying around the world. there is a scoreboard between al qaeda and isis who is going to win and the numbers going up on the scoreboard is how many people they have killed. why don't we call it what it is it's radical, it's islam and stop worrying if donald trump mentions something in a line or ben carson uses a met for. >> i think that the essence of...

Wondering why people looted crfs it's generations of frustration and anger. you request understand that knock over an atm. >> what she is talking about excessive force. losely based met for. no definition of excessive force other than after you have subdued a particular suspect. if that person has been subdued and you exert force beyond that that's when there is a problem. >> there have been reports looking at excessive force convictions less than half a percent in any case. not like an epidemic problem. maybe the media paints it as a larger picture than it actually is. >> dea excessive force ...