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It's not actually over what pincher did. it's over how the reaction was the same. but here's the question. and, michael and joey, i'd like to put this to you — maybe michael first. does the system need to change? or are the problems thatjames is describing, where untruths are being briefed to the press, perhaps that is a problem specific to the current operation in number 10? well, i mean, i'm not, you know, involved in reporting the news on a day—to—day basis these days. but i don't see that the system needs to change. ijust think that the culture needs to change. and you probably need ...

But by convention, they can't say it, and so the consequence for the individual — you know, they don't get attached to the falsehood. incredibly, sort of unfairly, cabinet ministers who go out and do the morning rounds might be told something and say it in good faith or broadcast tv, but their name gets attached to the lie. so i think the hope was... you know, ministers and mps were quite disappointed and annoyed that they'd been sent out to say there was no wrongdoing in number 10, there were no parties, there was none of that, and the press operation was changed, a new director of comms ca...

You saw the new operation actually send people out on the morning rounds saying things that weren't true. and i think that's why the frustration�*s come so much. it's not actually over what pincher did. it's over how the reaction was the same. but here's the question. and, michael and joey, i'd like to put this to you — maybe michael first. does the system need to change? or are the problems thatjames is describing, where untruths are being briefed to the press, perhaps that is a problem specific to the current operation in number 10? well, i mean, i'm not, you know, involved in reporting ...

So i think the hope was... you know, ministers and mps were quite disappointed and annoyed that they'd been sent out to say there was no wrongdoing in number 10, there were no parties, there was none of that, and the press operation was changed, a new director of comms came in, and thenjust days after the confidence vote, you saw the new operation actually send people out on the morning rounds saying things that weren't true. and i think that's why the frustration's come so much. it's not actually over what pincher did. it's over how the reaction was the same. but here's the question. and, mic...

Actually send people out on the morning rounds saying things that weren't true. and i think that's why the frustration�*s come so much. it's not actually over what pincher did. it's over how the reaction was the same. but here's the question. and, michael and joey, i'd like to put this to you — maybe michael first. does the system need to change? or are the problems thatjames is describing, where untruths are being briefed to the press, perhaps that is a problem specific to the current operation in number 10? well, i mean, i'm not, you know, involved in reporting the news on a day—to—d...