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We've got towards iran. i think they all agree this is desirable from their point of view. >> looking forward, michael, when they talk about military action, we're not necessarily talking about u.s. military strikes. we could be talking about things like escorting ships through the strait of hormuz. is that a fair assessment? >> it is except when these fast little patrol boats get close, you can't let them keep getting close. remember what happened to the cole in the year 2000. so i think that an escort operation at some point creates some protected areas around a ship and tells any ships that...

Involve some amount of lethal military force by the united states. >> and tensions between the u.s. and iran scale of 1-10, where are we? >> it's high. it's 7 or 8. again, it's not just about a specific bad day in the gulf. it's -- i ran is in a tough place. we're squeezing hard and trying to get them to cry uncle on the nuclear program and the broader regional activities. that's trump administration policy. they're putting on a ton of economic pressure. i don't see where this ends. it gets worse before it gets better. i'll go in 7 or 8 on a 1-10 range. >> thanks, michael. good insight. >> tha...

And use under water. some are set off with a timer while others only explode after the vessel its attached to travel a specific distance. limpits were used in world war ii. iran is no stranger to limpit mines. they were use in the 80s during the eight-year tanker war with iran and iraq where the two nations attacked each other's tankers in the gulf. its believed that limpit mines were used in the may attack off the coast of the united arab emirates. the u.s. pointed the finger at iran for those attacks. let's go to michael hanlin. the video that the military released of the iranians taking awa...

Counterinsurgency advisor in afghanistan, and also michael hanlin senior fellow at the brookings institution. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> shannon: you have spent time there and you've seen each other in the region. you've been busy. what do you make of the situation now and what the president needs to lay out tuesday night to not only speak to american audience and the iraqis likely to be listening as well? >> i think he needs to mark two things. first, he needs to mark how much this improve and how much better iraq is now than it was in the bad old days of 2006 and 2007. that said, ...