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Whatever trump says, whatever the cost he says, whatever program he wants. there's now actual opportunity costs of these huge tickets. look, he couldn't get the border wall down when he controlled both houses and now he's going to say he wants $5 billion for something we don't need and is going to furlough hundreds of thousands of employees to get it done and those employees include i.c.e. agents, tsa traveling during the holidays, include border control, include his own secret service agents who will be protecting him at mar-a-lago if he goes down and takes a vacation during a shutdown. so th...

Senate failed to repeal obamacare. so it was still law. and so they can say of course i want to protect pre-existing conditions. this ruling puts it back squarlly squar squarely in front of them. there is a high chance that does end up getting overturned. republicans are in a tough spot. to michael point, they should come to the table in theory and democrats should come to the table and figure out how to actually move forward if both sides do think pre-existing conditions are so important. there's a real opportunity for bipartisanship. democrats took the house. republicans have the senate. the...

Claim, which is all legal. but instead, they're not even not doing that. they're only talking about the wall, which is ridiculous. so the fact that they are not trying to help people and actually trying to continue to blame them is making the situation much worse. >> michael, as the policy to mike asylum seekers wait in mexico made the border crisis actually worse? >> it certainly increased the danger of the situation we had at our southern border. i don't think there's any american that argues against effective border security, smart border policies, so that the united states is making decisi...

Place to land. but i think, anderson, you can't deny there was an out reach, and in some respects there was a reach back by the campaign to these russians or russian surrogates and it's something that mueller will have to figure out, whether it was illegal and a conspiracy to impact the federal election commission, or not. >> gloria, i think michael point is important, that nothing in this reporting by "the new york times" indicates that hicks did anything improper at all. it is clear these russian operatives were trying to get as close as they could to the president by reaching 0 utah to obvi...

That's been set or if that's the level of the bar, then maybe they reach out to hope hicks to see whether she's in the don jr. camp or some other camp. >> michael, hick was reportedly interviewed today and yesterday by mueller's team. i imagine they want to get to the bottom of who crafted the trump tower statement. he communicated with her and not the president about that response. >> in some sense, if all roads lead to rome, as they expression goes, in some sense, hope hicks is rome. so much stuff goes through her as the conduit between outsiders and the president that she sits in a particul...