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The right. but we've got a lot of congressmen and state legislatures in oklahoma who are good people and who would like to see something done. it just takes the courage to a look, our kids are more important than our party line. it's more important than trying to make sure we win the next primary. you know, it's also, you can be afraid of what happens when the hard liners turn out in the primary. you got to get your people out there because there are more americans who want to put a stop to this tan there are who are willing to go along with it. >> micky, i think it's important to note this. i...

To see something done. it just takes the courage to a look, our kids are more important than our party line. it's more important than trying to make sure we win the next primary. you know, it's also, you can be afraid of what happens when the hard liners turn out in the primary. you got to get your people out there because there are more americans who want to put a stop to this tan there are who are willing to go along with it. >> micky, i think it's important to note this. it is tough sometimes. but when 85% of the people support better background collection and they know that weapons of war ...

>> i should point out, are you a former republican office holder, member of congress for many years. you bed in leadership, correct? >> i did. >> senator boxer, there is a cycle to this. there was a period of time in which democrats really led the charge on gun safety and gun regulation. it was seen as a winning issue. and things changed in the late '90s, 2000, people attributed al gore's loss to the assault on the ban. is that changing now? >> i believe it is. and i say that with a full heart because i've thought it before. when they murdered all those babies at sandy hook. but i think, micky...

Come after me. i'm retired, they still chase me around with their tweets. and i proved, i proved that you could win even if you stood up to these people because even the people that didn't agree with me, said that woman has guts. you know? let's see some guts. >> you know, micky, let me ask you this. you're not -- there's a certain kind of retired republican that represents a district that's now become very democratic. maybe they represented new hampshire. you're from oklahoma. right? >> right. >> the folks in the district you represent are, do they want more guns in schools? is that an idea t...

Again what some of those are. some of those steps. >> and barbara, you know, if you stand up to the nra and you lose your seat, life goes on. there are things much more important, you know, to protect the lives of young americans than to say gee, i want to hold this job for no another two years. it's cool. >> you got it. >> it's, do you remember, barbara, when we were there and there was this proposal to ban plastic guns. >> yes. >> which was so common sense. and i voted for it and the nra attacked me. i sent their money back and i said i'm never again going to take another penny from this org...