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Sleeps on the couch with a newspaper on his head to block out the overhead lights and demands people quiet down. >> it's unbelievable. then he be rates his staff because he's a micro manager that can't micro manage. he doesn't show up to do his job and berates his staff for not doing their job. >> brian: what i don't understand is, you had mayor bloomberg win as a republican even though he was a moderate. nobody could question mayor bloomberg's work ethic and his views. he wrote a lot of checks for people and nobody knows it. rudy guliani transformed this city twice as a republican. >> he was ...

To hear him say that and understanding that he allegedly or possibly had these meetings and talked about, or knew that he was going into a meeting about information against the clintons. it's -- if this is indeed true, this seems to be the mo of not just donald trump, jr., but the president. you know, go against the opponent, ruthless businessman. it's startling, but at the same time, and i'm going to go back to your earlier question. i recall talking to someone earlier today who is very close to the party, and they said look, they said this president is a micro manager and they said they don'...

He's not or not by comparison to some of the others? >> have many ways with "the new york times" especially, it's coverage of donald trump. he's damned if he does and damned if it doesn't. for example, the times recently had a story that he was conceding all of the decision making to the generals on the war in the mideast. several days later, rex tillerson at the state department was being undercut by the white house. so he's a micro manager in one case to a fault, delegates to a fault. on healthcare, he's not engaged. the unstated comparison to president obama who the times worshipped. but lo...

It's one of the most consistent things about him. he's been saying those things over and over again. republicans on the other hand, his aides, some of his top aides, are going to have to figure out how to make it work. we know he's not a micro manager of his staff. but he does weigh in when he feels like things are going off track. >> we can't. because he's never done anything like this in this life. so, that's a yes mark. you cover congress every day. you talk to these guys. this ain't reagan i keep hearing from gop leadership. he does not have as you all in his hands where we're so happy to ...

Companies, but in tult actuality, he's speaking to a few companies. we're getting a good deal for the taxpayer. donald trump will expect every cabinet person and every political appointee and every government employee, civil servant to put america first. make sure we're getting a good deal and attentive to cost overruns and contracts. why shouldn't the president be involved? he won't be a micro manager but he's setting a tone to make sure there's accountability. >> when you say he's not going to be a micro manager. he's not going to go through the great big official budget and go page by page ...