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Accident investigator how one would approach even examining debris? >> well, there's, you know, items on the macro scale or large scale that we would be looking at but also things on the micro scale. so they would be looking at how the metal is deformed, what part of the airplane, the way it is bent, the angles, and also for some of the items, they're going to look at the smaller cracks and smaller lesions and so forth that that might be telling also. the bottom line is you have to get wreckage in your hand and decide what level they feel like they're going to need to look at it. >> say we kno...

Customers and if you follow one of those three patterns, you can always grow sustainable. you don't have to worry about growing too fast. >> yeah. i shall sue when you see an opportunity out there, right, just -- reach for it, assuming, hoping, guessing that customers are going to come with -- you can't always say no to, you might be missing out if you don't do it. it is a hard balance to know when to go after and when not to. >> i believe every new kind of business, no matter how big your company is, you can test in micro scale and figure out okay, before we get a million customers to try thi...