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Committee that this does not happen, there is no one in the white house who pushes the button and cuts him off in mid-sentence? >> that is correct. having worked with the president for now 20 years, both here on this committee and in over the last nine months at the white house, the president very much speaks for himself. >> sandra: it's come to the point, john, where senators are now asking about this in hearing rooms, as important as the question in the hearing room on the withdrawal from afghanistan. >> john: does seem to happen a lot, no question about that. up next, explosive exchange bet...

Get through this. and it calmed me to keep looking at that picture of christ and to be able to help roger stay calm. >> that really had an impact on you. >> it did. >> huh. why? >> it just brought me comfort. it brought me peace to know that -- >> even if they killed you. >> to know that the -- my heavenly father loves me and that he would do the right thing for me. >> both men left the room, they said, and then roger began praying aloud. he was in mid-sentence, he said, when the men walked back in and something quite amazing happened. >> my wife nudged me and she says okay, be quiet, they're ...

Little after 8:15. >> it's -- yeah. "it's 8:15, just finished my shift. today was crazy. everybody was all buying v --" and the "v" was for valentine's day. >> reporter: and that's as far as she got? >> that's as far as she got. so she's interrupted mid-sentence. >> reporter: just who had done that? detectives weren't quite sure. daron believed the letter was intended for albert, who at the time of cathy's murder was lying in a coma in the hospital after a suicide attempt. he never woke up, and died almost two years later. >> obviously you have to look at all of that, and you have to ask, "is ...

More than 70 stab wounds suggested something else. >> there's nothing random about it. she was a targeted victim. >> reporter: and perhaps the most chilling clue -- a letter in cathy's own handwriting found tucked away on the passenger side of cathy's car. she says in the letter it's a little after 8:15. >> it's -- yeah. "it's 8:15, just finished my shift. today was crazy. everybody was all buying v --" and the "v" was for valentine's day. >> reporter: and that's as far as she got? >> that's as far as she got. so she's interrupted mid-sentence. >> reporter: just who had done that? detectives w...

Right shoe on the floorboard of her car and her sock covered in dirt. she got out of the car? >> yes, absolutely. cathy had fled from the vehicle on foot, had most likely been caught and attacked again before she was ultimately placed in the trunk of the car and died. >> reporter: she fought pretty hard to get away. >> she did. she ran for her life. >> reporter: to detectives, this was not a sex crime or a robbery. more than 70 stab wounds suggested something else. >> there's nothing random about it. she was a targeted victim. >> reporter: and perhaps the most chilling clue -- a letter in cath...