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Hurricanes before. hurricane ike took place nine years ago in 2008, so they understand hurricanes and respect them. at the same time, this one is very different. ike sort of came in and hit the galveston area pretty hard. there was some flooding. this one, the winds and storm surge weren't a big deal for galveston because it hit farther south of here. what they're dealing with now is all of this rain coming in and they know there are some flood-prone areas. if you walk around town, there are some markers up at some of the restaurants and businesses that show just how high the water got during ...

Terms of the national conversation. >> kind of double downed yesterday. the sad state of american journalism would be if we didn't hold him to the same standard that we hold others to. if we lowered the standard for mike huckabee because he was our good friend. we've expressed concern about this and mike huckabee has, too. as we stated yesterday, mike huckabee is critical of the birthers and the conspiracy theorists. the sad state of american journalism would be if we decided not to comment on it with our friend. mike sort of double downed willie yesterday, didn't he? >> yes. >> it's this othe...