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>> you're reborn as yourself and one of the goals of auditing is giving a person more control over what happens to them after he leaves the body, before he gets his new body. so you will remain conscious. >> so, did you ever get a chance to meet hubbard? >> yeah, i was on the apollo, which was the original flagship, and i walk out on this catwalk, and around the corner comes hubbard and his two aides, you know. he put his attention on me, and he said hi. and in that instant it was like i was looking into outer space. and i looked into the eyes of many people. i mean, 4,000, 5,000 hours by that...

Needle. with you it might feel a little bit of a lightness or an uptoneness that would occur or sort of expansion of your space or something like that. this process is called the first postlot process and the command is what isn't looking at you. >> what isn't looking at me. >> yeah. my dad. my dad's not looking at me. >> okay. good. >> what isn't looking at you? . >> my family. >> good. all right. what isn't looking at you? >> everybody who is not in this room. >> what isn't looking at you? >> i guess, the world. >> the needl released on that. how you doing on that one?

Until the 16th century the roman catholic church was the sole interpreter of christianity in europe. but rumors of corruption in the vatic vatican, and the sense that the church was becoming greedy drove a dissatisfied and rebellious group of christians to break off from the church, to begin to interpret the faith for themselves. the protestant reformation, as it became known, swept through europe. and dozens of churns, methodist, presbyterian, anglicans each began the came up with their own interpretation of what it meant to be christian. i'm on my way to meet trey lotz. trey joined the churc...

Reactive mind and full possession of your analytical mind. >> auditing is the way you get clear? >> exactly. but as people were looking farther and farther into their own personal histories, they found they could go back to the womb. and they went back even farther to past lives. and hubbard realized he wasn't on to something that wasn't purely mental health. it translated into religion. >> so what? that indicated to him that these engrams are stamped in the soul? >> he called a thetan, which is the same idea. e idea of a soul that migrates from body to body, from lifetime to lifetime. >> so f...

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