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Not be able to counter this, is that right? the u.s. doesn't have a good military answer to it? >> actually, no one does. that's why we signed the treaty in the first place. these things are so close, they have a tiny amount of warning time. they're very hard for missile defenses to intercept and pose all kinds of stability risks. >> what's the answer that john bolton will give to the russians today? was this official, not official? can the president be talked out of it? >> i think he's going to tell them we're out. maybe the president has changed his mind. but john bolton has been writing op-...

Time has come to talk to north korea and stop this and talk with the subject to no preconditions, but sit down and negotiate a solution. because everything i know is that there is no military answer to this. if you -- if for a moment, if you look at what the dmz is today, 750,000 north korean troops behind that hill line at the end of the plane, and those hills stunted with rockets, we have 28,000 troops there, and seoul is 25 minute drive to the dmz. there is no military solution. a war would mean the death of hundreds of thousands of people. and it makes no sense. so we and isolating a natio...

I'm just curious. i respect your apprehension to go forward with a military answer. are you banking on them just not going to that next level, them being north korea? >> of course i'm not. i'm not. i'm just saying that you can't look at it always, okay, we have military action. we take it out. nothing will happen. they have things hidden under grounds over there. they have people on the ground or they wouldn't be afraid to use. we have americans there. there's south korea there. there would be consequences. around the world, might be kind of mad at us for sparking that. i'm just saying acknowl...

Sophisticated, as we know, outreach campaign. and they attract followers that are sitting in our own country and sitting throughout europe. but the caliphate being crushed. raqqa's going to fall soon, mosul will be recaptured back by iraqi forces within the next few weeks, so their ground is being taken away, and now they're going to send out their lonely lions, as they call them, to continue to keep the isis brand alive. and literally, it's a brand, it's a terror brand, and they're sending fighters out to conduct these individual attacks to keep isis in the news. arthel: and in understanding ...

Headed to korea and before we did the syria strike the president was talking and secretary of state tillerson was talking about north korea. and there's no easy -- there's really no military answer to north korea. there's deterrents in place. what the administration has lined up is a one-two challenge with dealing with syria behind syria, iran, and then on the other side of the world, north korea. so there's enough military action here to keep wheels spinning and keep h.r. mcmaster spinning for a long, long time. >> the other big factor in syria is that it's a home base for isis. today egyptia...