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The broader issue of nuclear weapons proliferation and here is the reason i say this, kelly. there are lots of countries that have nuclear power plants that generate electricity, but just because you have one doesn't mean you can build a bomb. in fact, you need more than that and in fact, the focus on iran's program from the u.s. and others, has been enrichment because enrichment is the technology that could be misused and used for a military program, not the power plant generating electricity. >> kelly: here is the thing though, should we be able to trust the russians in moving forward to hel...

Campbell? >> all right, dan loathian for us tonight. dan, thanks very much. and sam nunn, the highly respected former senator from georgia, has been leading efforts to try to stop the spread of nuclear weapons for decades. first in government and now as the ceo of the nuclear threat initiative. and i spoke with him earlier this evening. senator nunn, there were a number of commitments made today, among them ukraine and mexico giving up their entire stockpile of highly enruched uranium. russia will eliminate weapons grade plutonium from its military program. russia will close a major plutoniu...

Diplomacy was exhausted and the issue was whether the united states and the united nations and the whole international community was just going to basically surrender to saddam hussein, or whether those 17 u.n. security resolutions -- >> quickly, the damage -- just as a national security expert, when you're trying to win over support with right now iranian -- with these iranian sanctions, where we're basing it on our intelligence reports, combination we had remember with president obama, gordon brown, nicolas sarkozy at the g-20 in pittsburgh trying to make against the united nations, our inte...

Believe we start to unwind all the other pressure points inside the middle east. >> could you and jordan live with iran with a nuclear weapon? >> if we solve the israeli-palestinian problem, why would iranians want to spend so much money on the program? it makes no sense. it has social and economic challenges. why push the envelope in getting to a military program for what cause? if you solve the problem, you don't need to pursue that path. >> people in washington who listen to this are going to say he's soft on iran. >> president obama said something that was very, very critical about the fut...

Was made under false pretense, but as it is clear from an historical record, the u.s. made this deal with iran because they knew iran wasn't truthful about its military program. so are your suggesting that in 2014-15, we believed iran? >> i'm suggesting the deal should have never been made in the first place, and even though they had been known to be bad actors to some degree, the degree to which they were not being honest was not fully known at the time the iran deal was made. >> thank you. two questions, one is about the lawsuit filed today by california and 17 other states over there right ...