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>> thanks for that. appreciate it. learned a lot. >> possible legal repercussions let's bring in jill wine-banks, and legal analyst mimi roach. you got a case like this. and in some ways a boring case insofar as a lot of paper and money trails. so a little bit of spice. they talked about a $15,000 ostrich jacket. what is the approach here. >> it is a good point. you have to keep the jury's interest a little bit. sometimes dwelling on the extravagant purchases. you know, really what the strategy here is going to be

Was in his business. whether he was the day-to-day, he knew everything that was going on. the questions from prosecutors tried to get at this idea of manafort as very hands-on. very involved in every aspect of his busy, trying to counter perhaps the defense narrative that manafort was high level and entrusted his financial dealings with his associates like rick gates and he thought even was going to do what they were supposed to with his finances and no intent to mislead any u.s. officials. >> thanks for that. appreciate it. learned a lot. >> possible legal repercussions let's bring in jill wi...

Venting the justice department. mimi's point about how had they had gone through normal procedures it's unlikely this commutation would have been granted. presidents have been loathe to use their column on thesy powers. part of the loathe is the office that screens things and recommends yes or no. part of the criticism is that it has been unduly captured by the prosecutorial mind-set: we have gone all this trouble to put this person in jail. why would we let them out. most recent presidents have tried to stay away and made little use of their pardon power. this is another way in which trump is...

So far today hasn't said anything herself but the president certainly acknowledged that she is back in the public spotlight. and it was also an event where she was not the focus. they were talking about other things, and every other cabinet secretary was there. so she was able to emerge without being the center of attention. >> kelly o'donnell at the white house for us. thank you very much as always. really appreciate it. the president has meanwhile reportedly become very preoccupied with these pardons we were just talking about in recent weeks. the "washington post" first reported he has be...