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Whistle-blower's identity -- >> they could have submitted questions. >> they were given an opportunity from his attorneys and mark zaid and others to submit written questions. in any case, do they not have a point? >> if you were conducting a congressional investigation which does not have rules of evidence the way a trial does, more evidence is always better. so i can't blame the republicans for wanting to get more evidence. they have a very selective interest in what evidence they want. they don't care about john bolton, they don't care about mick mulvaney. they want this apparently mid-leve...

And i know you invite this. but -- >> i do. congressman, get ready, are you ready? >> i do not buy the idea that congress -- that republican members of congress are going through introspection. they have known the truth about trump for the three years plus he has been president and what they're going through or if they're going through an introspection is about their self-interest. their self-interest has told them regardless of the threat to the institutions of democracy, i'm going to protect myself. now what they're saying is maybe supporting trump isn't in my self-interest. >> you're saying...

The conversation changed -- turned into "don't worry about him." "don't worry about him helping with the baby." >> reporter: they thought that's all it was, derek didn't want to help raise his child. now they replayed that moment over and over. >> we should've said, "wait, what did he say -- what did he say to you?" but instead of that we were like, "we don't need him. like, just hang up. don't even talk to him." you know, that kind of just -- >> yeah, that's exactly what we said. >> showing her the kind of support. 'cause we're so used to just picking up our burdens and going. >> she brought ...

Been trying to hide? why not say i heard the conversation? >> i don't know. i'm not a mind reader, but i think there was a, perhaps, a certain amount of guilt pang, i think, that i'm sure he understood what was going on where the president was trying to muscle another head of state to do his bidding to advance his political fortunes, and by holding hostage the military assistance that the congress had long ago voted on and appropriate. i think he knew all that. >> he admitted that he heard it and he'll face more questions about what he thought about it or why he stood by without objecting. i w...

>> in the transcript. no, it's not there. this quid pro quo that we were told would be there. if you dig up dirt on my political opponent, i will release foreign aid to you. i don't read that into what was said. paul: would it be in the back of his mind if he had thought -- zelensky's mind -- >> i'm not a mind reader. none of us are mind readers. that's the problem here. this is pretty weak tea compared to what we were told would be in here. and i think it shows the sort of over-eagerness of the democrats here and, remember, this started out as them wanting to impeach trump for not releasing t...