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You had a tweet by nick kristof who said when leaders go berserk furiously denying anything is going on and blaming others, that's when you're getting close. he's referring to donald trump's allegation that obama was jake from scandal and bugging trump tower. it is strange, watching the media covering donald trump, does it feel like they are covering almost a tv show? >> yes. and i think the need for normalcy is deep in this country. when van jones said he had done something presidential and extraordinary, i thought perhaps it was a jedi mind trick. maybe this worked somehow. you know, i reall...

Hillary clinton did it? and do you ever do a mind trick -- >> on both sides, yeah. >> so i think it's an interesting game. and so when you say what if hillary clinton's national security adviser before she was installed in the white house, the top advisers had repeated calls with the russians on the sunday show and misled her vice president and lied about it, then what? >> i would call for an investigation. not a problem. >> why do you seem to be more calm about it on the trump side? >> i'm not calm on either side. >> so are you comfortable with an investigation with mr. trump as well? >> sure...

That, i don't know. but they don't believe you. >> there's more to donald trump's war on the median than using them as a political foil to replace having an opponent in an election. it's a battle, really, over the truth and who controls it. for president, it seems, objective facts aren't even part of the equation. instead, truth is the reality defined by whomever commands power and public opinion. we saw that play out in the president's attempt at a weird jedi mind trick over his inauguration crowds which were observably smaller than president obama's. we saw today in his prescription of the t...

President's attempt at a weird jedi mind trick over his inauguration crowds which were observably smaller than president obama's. we saw today in his prescription of the travel ban which produced chaos that played out live on social media and the news. >> let me tell you about the travel ban. we had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban but we had a bad court. we had a bad decision. that's the only thing that was wrong with the travel ban. very bad for the safety and

Looks like a jedi mind trick and you choose to go left or right and you have all of the green lights with you. >> yes. fifth avenue and sixth avenue is from experience. i did fifth and sixth avenue two years ago. so i knew all i had to do is adjust my speed accordingly to make it no red lights. >> is this helping you to get more customers? are you getting something out of this skill or is it just for fun? >> right now it's just for fun, but especially back when i was driving the yellow cab, if i was -- if i was in a hard time and i couldn't find anybody, i'd say the heck wit, leth it. let's st...