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Ukrainians should be able to strike back and strike out. >> in ukraine's eastern donbas region, there's a small mining town, and the russians were talking about it as if they were taking kyiv or something. why is this town so important to russia? is it because they need a win, just need to put score points on the scoreboard? >> i think you put it just right, they need a win. these are dangerous-type of battles. this has become a prestige battle. it also has become a prestige battle for ukraine in a much smaller way, a much, much smaller way than in world war i, and a more massive scale was to ...

S bring in jill doherty and bill taylor. soledar, just a small mining town, but obviously it's a means to an end for russia and that end is controlling the key city of bakhmut. it took months for russia to make even these small gains, and it's worth noting ukraine still controls about 35% of the donetsk region. the institute for the study of war think tank adds taking the most generous russian claims at face value, the capture of soledar would not mean an encirclement of bakhmut. do you agree with that assessment? >> i do. i think the russians want to pin down and destroy as many ukrainian sol...

As always, it's hard to be certain what the situation is on the front line — but let's look at what we know. that front line is still in eastern ukraine. ukrainian and russia are fighting for control of a mining town called soledar. if russia take soledar, it could help them to encircle nearby bakhmut — another town it wants to take. and, russia hasn't taken a key ukrainian town or city for months, so they're looking for a victory. and so they're attacking soledar aggressively. take a look at this satellite picture — it's how soledar looked in august. those are people's homes and apartme...

These situations, from what we know at the moment, are very different. it seems like the biden team found these documents and was forthcoming in going to the national archives and reporting them. it also seems that there were simply more documents at president trump's mar—a—la then in president biden's position. == mar-a-la then in president biden's osition. , ,, ., so very different situations, but they will be compared. now — to ukraine. as always, it's hard to be certain what the situation is on the front line, but let's look at what we know. that front line is still in eastern ukrain...