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Would you agree with me that r.t. is putin's propaganda machine here in the united states. >> i would agree with you, yes. >> so is it appropriate for the r.t. to be used to affect public policy on our nation? as an example there have been a long series of advertisements or programs on r.t. going against fracking saying it's bad and trying to affect public policy in the united states? is that appropriate use or should americans be paying attention to that? >> in the tense that americans should be paying attention to rt and other outlets used to pop gait this kind of information, absolutely. i ...

We can make the argument that the only person that pumped trump more than kim jong un is putin, and the entire defense they're putting out there, a big part of the defense is that ukraine was meddling in our election. she said this is clearly rub sh -- russian propaganda. you know who they will not make happy if they do that? the boss? >> it is stunning to imagine fiona hill with their clarity and strength, who left many of us awe struck. her story of growing up poor being a coal miners daughter. and coming and serving presidents because of her expertise, just imagining that

Some time that the president is more supportive of vladimir putin's view of ukraine than of his own administration's view of ukraine. so on paper, there's the state department policy and pentagon policy to support ukraine and its military conflict with russia by sending these weapons. well, donald trump says not only am i going to hold the aid up but seems to adopt the world view. remember, these officials in his own government, were very worried about donald trump's view of ukraine because they had a meeting with trump himself in the oval office and may 23rd, when they returned from president...

Intelligence community in identifying that they certainly was involved in undermining our elections, hacking into the dnc, the way he has insisted on private meetings with our enemy, that is putin, and the way that he's insisted on private meetings with kim jong-un, on and on and on. this president has advocated violence. this president in my estimation was eligible for impeachment long before this and it does not even compare with what was going on with the clinton impeachment, and so i do believe that we now have factual information about him attempting to engage the president of the ukraine...

Because they couldn't make it work and it had radiation risk. the five killed were scientists from the institute. they said they were working on the reactor and could not get it under control and essentially it melted down on them. >> your point in the back half of the "times" piece is does it actually work. isn't that one of the key questions? >> i think there are two big questions here. the first is putin has invested a huge amount, invested a lot in the new arms race with the united states as a way to sort of restore the old glory of the form are soviet union. if in fact this thing killed s...