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Recipes at the restaurant, he was also trying to find a way to help relatives who had been affected by the closure of local cotton mills. >> a lot of my family went through transition having worked in cotton mills. we had musicians in the family that were out of work. we had music here and i wanted to provide an outlet. it was a desire to do something good, almost a side project. >> in spite of the global recognition of the jonas brothers name, when they opened nellie's, they made an effort not to market it zas a jonas brother's restaurant. >> i think part of the problem is the name will bring...

Is, in effect, white collar crime. do you think robert mueller and his co-counsel are impression nabl impressionable in that way? >> no, i don't. this is another aspect of the president and this white house trying to influence and potentially obstruct this investigation by releasing publicly whatever is this information that they supposedly are conducting some kind of opposition research or looking into potential conflicts of the lawyers who are on that special counsel. i view this as just another part of the pattern of this white house of trying to obstruct the investigation that's being cond...

President has done something like this, it backfires. he hired an attorney general he thought was going to be favorable to him, and then that person recused. he tried to lay on the fbi director and that resulted in the fbi director writing memos that took care the conversations. he fired the fbi director and that led to bob mueller. every time they take a step to obstruct the investigation because he wants it shut down it ends up backfiring. and i think this effort to discredit the special counsel staff is going do end up the exact same way. >> brian, how much of the sum total of mistakes made...

All thee erjerseys of the team mueller is assembling, they would be on an all-star team. do you think robert mueller and his co-counsel are pressurable in that way? >> no, i don't. former director muller has put together an exceptional team of lawyers. this is another aspect of the president and his white house trying to influence and potentially obstruct this investigation. whatever they are supposedly conducting opposition research of the lawyers who are on that special counsel. i view this as another part of the pattern of this white house trying to obstruct the investigation that's being c...

Be someone taking the phone away from the president, or at least telling him, like why are you saying this. >> good luck, boris! yes. the answer is yes. the second answer is, it ain't gonna happen! for two years now people have been trying to yank the phone out of donald trump's fingers, and nobody has succeeded at that. i have no faith that anyone on this legal team -- whatever their talents might be, would be able to achieve that. >> brian, who has to step up and say maybe you shouldn't -- you keep shooting yourself in the foot, maybe you shouldn't do that. >> plenty of people have done that...