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Ford field which was clearly an awkward event and where, you know, he gave an important speech and it got overshadowed, blame it media and the campaign, it got overshadowed by all the mistakes that were made. well -- is there going to be an effort to try to ramp it up, maybe bring in fresh blood? >> well, the organization that we have has been incredible. in fact, if you look at our organization we are half the size of what we were four years ago, in the campaign. and we feel good about where we are. we are -- it was very clear last week after the detroit economic speech that the decision to h...

Which are why debates are important. the only candidate, including barack obama who had budget for four years welfare reform, cut taxes and cut spending on the national level. he has worked, governed, reached across the aisle and made it happen with a democratic president. he can get things done. >> sean: are you guys angry at how personal this campaign has become? both of you have had to come to his defense, about lies about divorce between your mom and dad, you have gone out there in a big personal way. it got personal on a lot of points. does it anger you? >> the accurate word for me is dis...

Which are why debates are important. the only candidate, including barack obama who had budget for four years welfare reform, cut taxes and cut spending on the national level. he has worked, governed, reached across the aisle and made it happen with a democratic president. he can get things done. >> sean: are you guys angry at how personal this campaign has become? both of you have had to come to his defense, about lies about divorce between your mom and dad, you have gone out there in a big personal way. it got personal on a lot of points. does it anger you? >> the accurate word for me is dis...

This argument? >> i'm not interested in your effort to get republicans fighting against each other. >> the strategy seems to be quite intentional because, jonathan, when he went to talk to people at your paper, he was questioned about all this media bashing. and let me show you what he says. he says, those two things galvanize people anded it media becomes a good target for him in these debates and might be the target tonight since he says he's not going to fight any of his opponents. >> right. that's what he said in those previous debates again when he was not -- when he was not the flavor of...

These numbers are even bigger than expected and that the figures are still going to grow. the ideas we have only counted so far 33 states or 17 states left to go and the numbers are already huge. >> how will this change the culture in america and how has it changed it, i should say. >> well, you've got, you know, the statistics are pretty startling. you have 600,000 more hispanics than were expected so far. again, of the 28 of these 33 states have more hispanics than expected and 1.5% higher than protected is the early count. these are showing a trend that is going to continue to show up all o...