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Another hearing before the senate finance committee. jonah boldburg is editor at large for national review online. he is also a fox news contributor. h-p now we know, jonah that dennis mcd u.n. na, the right hand man, chief of staff, gate keeper to the oval office knew about the i.r.s. scandal, who he did kathryn ruemmler the ponchartrain's white house counsel but we are to believe that the president knew nothing about it, was never told. >> yeah, i want to be very clear that i did not plant that question with you beforehand. this is the first time i'm hearing it. yeah, look, this is by "polit...

[sound of sirens ] >> you know everybody says it sounds like a train, i've never heard a train that sounded like that. it was the worst sound i've ever heard. [sound of tornado siren ] >> this is in one word speechless, this is -- i don't even know where to start to describe what i'm seeing. >> with the devastation i've seen, you know, images don't quite do it justice. the silver lining in this awful cloud, this horrific cloud is that over 100 survivors found in the midnight hours. i'm optimistic, have a lot of faith and hope and we are praying that we find more survivors today. jon: this may ...

If there's anything salvageable and talk to insurance and know that god's going to take care of us. he always has. jenna: joann, it's such a pleasure to speak to you. you have a busy day aped head, and we'll be thinking about you and your family. >> i have my family, and that's what's important. jenna: we appreciate the time. thank you so much. >> thank you. jon: they have their priorities straight in oklahoma, don't they? we're going to keep tracking the latest developments from there, but we are also following some critical hearings on capitol hill. the acting irs commissioner is back in the...

Wanting death, therefore, flows as that's true. so how in the world can she now go in there and deny that? the only point is if the jury hasn't seen the interview. jenna >> they are not supposed to have seen it, but come on. jon: could her team argue, listen she had just been through an inch kre incredibly stressful condition. her mind stand. >> they can absolutely argue that. >> they can? >> really, yeah. didn't you do that, doug? i think she is going to take the stand and crying the alligator tears saying, please for give me, all the child abuse i had, all the things that have occurred in my...

House were involved. that, that could change as more facts come out. but right now i think -- and if it turns out they weren't and republicans keep pressing to try to take it there, people could believe the republicans' overreach, we're just going after the president, and that could have ramifications in 2014. jon: but as the president tries to steer the country toward more and more government involvement in their daily lives including obamacare, i mean, critics like -- or pundits like chris stirewalt have pointed out that the overall theme, their defense to many of these scandals is, essentia...