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Inconvince siivel. how long going to continue before the world unites against these savages? how long? that's the memo. now for top story tonight from washington thomas anderson for the center from strategic and international studies. here in the city michael weist, author of the book isis inside the army of terror. am i overstating things, mr. weist? >> no, i don't think you are. isis is many things. it's a terror army. it's a totalitarian political organization. actually, the upper echelons are former baathist of the saddam hussein regime. a lot of the ideology came over from that. >> you in...

All the problem. >> putin is probing. he probes in crimea. he probed in georgia. >> succeeding here is going for the baltics next. >> pew poll just out today. do you favor or oppose u.s. sending ground troops to fight isis? favor 47, oppose 49, which is pretty much a dead heat in the margin of error. so that is a big big change from october where only 39 favor. so, you know people are starting to see, this is going to go on forever unless we confront them. ladies, very good debate. spirited as always. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. did you know that a fox news anchor...

These 50,000 people or whatever. >> once you stand up and make a statement, then people say okay, then what's the next move? people are intimidated by the group. they are intimidated by the landscape that they would have to go into. are you telling me that the united states of america is intimidated by 50,000 isis savages? >> i'm speaking about the world in general. >> we take the lead though, right? we get the summit. and we have, all right. this is what we are going to do. look at nato, nato could wipe them out. just nato. >> some people may not agree with that i mean, you would have to actu...

>> actually do you have members of the military and military analysts putting out commands to the commander and chief and he refuses to do it. >> where are those plans? >> all over fox news. you have got military analysts talking about. >> pentagon people. >> but you were also hearing that. >> wait, kirsten, come on, former secretaries of defense, new secretary of defense that they are laying out the options and they have been for a long time and the commander and chief refuses to do it. if you really want to smash isis if that's your objective you do it in three ways you do it militarily, eco...

War with germany and japan. that jews and dissidents in germany were being put in concentration camps specifically dacol. they knew that too bad that's over there it's not here. same thing is it not. >> outsourcing of the ground campaign particularly in iraq, look at the forces fighting against isis, these are iranian built proxy groups sohio -- shia militias. >> and the kids. >> and the kurds. i talked to the kurds all the time. they say we have no intention of going into sunni con clafs doing combat house by house. >> we want to defend our turf. >> we are tefneddinging our turf. >> there isn...