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Prevalent then and concern grew over the number of jews at ivy league schools. >> they came knocking at the door of the ivies and the ivies were very uncomfortable with that. >> at harvard, president lowell openly called it "the jewish problem." his solution, count the jews to see how quickly their numbers were rising. >> they felt that jews will take over. >> according to this historian, administrators pored over records. but it wasn't always clear who was jewish. so a ranking system was used. j-1 for students who were clearly jewish. j-2, more than likely jewish. j-3, could be jewish. the fi...

Were very uncomfortable with that. >> at harvard, president lowell openly called it the jewish problem. his solution, count the jews to see how quickly their numbers were rising. >> they felt that jews will take over. >> according to this historian, jerome carabel, administrators pored over records but it wasn't always clear who was jewish. so a ranking system was used. j-1 for students who were clearly jewish. j-2, more than likely jewish. j-3, could be jewish. the findings, in 1922 harvard was 21% jewish. the president decided to take action. >> i am instituting a jewish quota. >> there was ...

>> there's a real possibility that as bad as i don't want to think about it, we may never see each other again. >> mountains a week, however, maxwell is allowed to see other members of his family. his youngest daughter echo along with her mother, mary jo cravat, have just arrived at the jail for a visit. mary jo and jimmy are divorced, but maintain a friendship. they are here to get questions answered about the recent escape attempt. >> he thought it was an opportunity for a -- probably cost him the rest of his life. >> who are you here to see? >> james maxwell. >> visitation to j-2, i need ja...

North korea. >> does that seem possible? >> not to start with. i mean, i certainly subscribe to that as a long-term objective with north korea. but to establish that as a condition for negotiations or that elicit commitment from the north koreans that they -- they agree to walk on the path of denuclearization, from my experience dealing with the north koreans, that is a nonstarter. >> is that realistic? >> i vote with jim. he was the j-2 in korea. i've had two tours in korea. let me be very candid. given the current security situation in northeast asia, the north koreans would be irrational to...

>> once a week, however, maxwell is allowed to see other members of his family. his youngest daughter echo along with her mother, mary jo cravat, have just arrived at the jail for a visit. mary jo and jimmy are divorced but maintain a friendship. both women are here to get some questions answered about jimmy's recent escape attempt. >> he thought it was an opportunity for a -- probably cost him the rest of his life. >> who are you here to see? >> james maxwell. >> visitation to j-2, i need james maxwell for a visit, please. james maxwell. all right. go ahead. j-2. >> i'm thinking it's so stupi...