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Opinion on something, or actually just fact that someone doesn't like, people love to tag my employers oh, blah, blah, blah did you see what your employee said? i have people trying to get me fired all of the time for my opinion, when is this era of cancel culture going to end. i like that musso & fra elon musk is bringing attention to it, it has to stop and corporations have to push back. >> i agree with that, charlie. who do you think will win between elon musk and mark junker bmark and. >> you we could bring by dueling. i could win, that i'm not much into the mma stuff, i am worried about e...

I think she was -- >> what's interesting about what kevin said, i didn't see it as a conservative versus a liberal. i think anyone could have given that speech. anyone who's concerned about what she is talking about, someone who is in the position of the president of the united states, who's beating up on people and humiliating people? >> i saw, the first part of it, yeah. >> i agree the mma stuff was a bridge too far, i didn't see her as being a victim. i saw her as standing up for victims. and using her strength to come to the rescue of people who feel vulnerable. i do think this idea of the...

The jury certainly listened to him. i thought the demonstration was kind of odd. i don't know that they understood why he was there. we know that one of the witnesses testified that he saw some sort of mma-style fighting and then you've got someone getting up on the stand saying, yeah, he was training at my gym, i'm some mma specialist, he trained two or three times a week, he was a diligent student and he was overweight. i don't know how that helps the defense. yeah, maybe he knew mma stuff and he was losing so he pulls out a gun. you can't bring a gun to a fist fight. so i almost think it he...

Zimmerman i'd be like all right, i got it, i was out of shape! >> sunny, how did this play in court? >> it was so weird. the jury certainly listened to him. i thought the demonstration was kind of odd. i don't know that they understood why he was there. we know that one of the witnesses testified that he saw some sort of mma-style fighting and then you've got someone getting up on the stand saying, yeah, he was training at my gym, i'm some mma specialist, he trained two or three times a week, he was a diligent student and he was overweight. i don't know how that helps the defense. yeah, maybe ...

And then you've got someone getting up on the stand saying, yeah, he was training at my gym, i'm some mma specialist, he trained two or three times a week, he was a diligent student and he was overweight. i don't know how that helps the defense. yeah, maybe he knew mma stuff and he was losing so he pulls out a gun. you can't bring a gun to a fist fight. so i almost think it helped the prosecution. and the looks on the jurors' faces to me seemed like they didn't get it either. it was an odd witness. >> danny, jeff makes the point that it is speculation what this guy was saying, he's down on the...