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>> what do you make about that one line with the passive voice was directed your colleague was on yesterday and he said you look at this campaign, it was a small boiler room this was a pretty small campaign to what degree can you speculate or suspect who that person might be >> i wouldn't actually want to speculate about who the person might be though, it could be fun. no, but really there is two things going on. we don't know how the pieces fit together because only bob mueller does at this point and truly the people who, including the president it looks like, were involved in this boiler roo...

Know that we're also planning on prosecuting your mom for the things that you said she did on the tape. and i basically stood my ground and said if they would not let me call someone, call my mom, i couldn't make this decision without talking to her. so eventually they said okay. >> now, two things and i want to button this with a different piece of sound, frank, and i want to come to you. but one is she didn't come forward and try to rat on bill clinton. that's always been out there, she came out. no, she did not. and to have feds talking to you as a 20 something-year-old saying we will come ...

Prosecuting your mom for the things that you said she did on the tape. and i basically stood my ground and said if they would not let me call someone, call my mom, i couldn't make this decision without talking to her. so eventually, they said okay. >> two things i want -- i want to button this with a different piece of sound. one is, she didn't come forward and try to rat on bill clinton. that was a big -- that's been something that's been out there. she came out. no, she did not. to have feds talking to you as a 20 something-year-old saying we will come at your mother if you don't talk to us,...

Mob folks. i thought it was interesting, chris, in this investigation about russian collusion, it kind of sounds like an espionage case. they are a little more like mob types than spice because the bling, the bragadocio. so he talks about a mob organization, that also has a ring of truth to it. >> one more beat on this if you would indulge me, and then we will move on in terms of the confirmation process and you know what i'm going to ask you. >> i do. >> everybody will take it through their own lens of what they're looking for in it. what is your bar for satisfaction? >> well, you were leadin...

Planning. a number of american railroads, passenger trains perhaps at the same time at one of these dramatic 9/11/11 thing. do we know if that was his idea? >> don't know if it was his idea, but appears to be recorded in papers found in that bedroom where he was killed. something he was putting together or reviewing in a personal and direct way. >> i was thinking of a paradigm, almost like an organized underworld figure who gets put away for hard time. he's in prison and still calling the shots for a family, a mob organization. >> he's got all that time. nothing else to distract him. right? he...