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A co-conspiracy. and that could be a problem for them. >> do you see any similarities, john, in how mueller took down the gambino crime family when he was federal prosecutor in terms of how mueller seems to be systematically indicting and then flipping these trump associates to cooperate? >> there is. and this is pretty standard with white collar prosecutors working on mob cases particularly where they go to get the lower level people first, try to get them to either plead or indict them and then flip them. this is pretty standard operating procedure. that's exactly what we see in this case, t...

Enough maybe the president will pardon him. but when you have this many claims by the special prosecutor whether it's this serious millions of dollars, and by the way, paying people to lobby on pro russian government in ukraine, and pro russian position, that actually smells a lot like some of the things that are being investigated with regard to the campaign. so i this i this is dangerous. i think we do have to caution that we haven't yet seen an underlying crime charged with regard to the russians election in and the collusion and this may not go to the president, it may go into the white ho...