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The president talking about flipping and how he didn't like the fact michael cohen flipped. he thought paul manafort was brave for not flipping. some people are saying this is like mob talk. unfair assessment or should he steer away from comments like that. anthony: he should steer away. that would never happen. but that's president trump. that's the person people love. he wears that on his sleeve. when i saw that interview i saw the emotion and the hurt that people were turning against him. he's fearful people will tell lies about him to get a reduced sentence for himself. i don't think he wa...

Howie: a lot of commentary about the president talking about flipping and how he didn't like the fact michael cohen flipped. he thought paul manafort was brave for not flipping. some people are saying this is like mob talk. unfair assessment or should he steer away from comments like that. anthony: he should steer away. that would never happen. but that's president trump. that's the person people love. he wears that on his sleeve. when i saw that interview i saw the emotion and the hurt that people were turning against him. he's fearful people will tell lies about him to get a reduced sentence...

The president talking about flipping and how he didn't like the fact michael cohen flipped. he thought paul manafort was brave for not flipping. some people are saying this is like mob talk. unfair assessment or should he steer away from comments like that. anthony: he should steer away. that would never happen. but that's president trump. that's the person people love. he wears that on his sleeve. when i saw that interview i saw the emotion and the hurt that people were turning against him. he's fearful people will tell lies about him to get a reduced sentence for himself. i don't think he wa...

And i think that is the clearest signaling we've seen from the president of what is to come. i think you're right the idea that the danger of paul manafort turning is something very much in the president's mind and that's what you're seeing. >> it's the language, forgive me. it's the language of an organized crime family. don't break. >> the other day he used the word rat in a tweet. where have we heard such things before. it's mob talk. mobsters talk. you know, gotti used to say things about people who would turn on him and called him rights. essentially he's calling michael cohen a rat. what...

And decide when they will and won't testify. >> well, nunberg also laughed off the prospect at his refusal to comply with the subpoena would land him in jail. let's watch. >> if a witness refuses, then i do think they face contempt of court and possible jail. >> and contempt of court as mr. nunberg and i were discussing earlier can lead to jail. >> i'm not going to jail. come on. you think i'm going to jail? >> what is this, judgment by nunberg? how does this guy -- he is a little bit like carter page. they all seem a little screwy. they don't seem like the normal professionals you deal with i...