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Imminence of an attack by north korea that much higher, because it now has a capability. not just an intention to use something that might be in development, but we have to assume that it's accurate. that the report is accurate. that they have a capability and that now the united states has a full array of options it has to be able to use, and it raises the spectrum of a potential conflict. everybody on the peninsula has been preparing for this kind of engagement for quite some time and so there are measured heads that are in charge there, and clearly our national command authority understands...

Icbm capability. they have short-range missiles, plenty of those. they have been miniaturizing their nukes. whether they have 20, some estimates, whether they have 60, they have miniaturized nukes. north korea is a nuclear power. they are now getting closer and closer, if not have already embraced and realized a capability of launching a nuke from sites in north korea that could potentially hit the united states and certainly have always been able to hit the southern portion of the peninsula. that's what ties us all together and, really, starts to limit the number of options, but increases the...

Government of seoul, have a very strong relationship there. we have, you indicated, 28,000-plus troops south of the dmz. assigned to south korea. we have family members that are there. so this suffering that will take place is real, and it's potentially imminent, and it has been for years and years. you realize, of course, that deployment of forces on to korea has always lived under that, that requirement to fight tonight. this now has been ratcheted up, the he level of concern because this capability. elise pointed out i think very, very well. this is a defense intelligence agency estimate. w...

Homicidal but not suicidal. if he were to launch or completely ignore any external end fretreaties in terms how th might try to embrace having a nuclear north korea, but wracked in protocols being a part of that. it he's not a place in to that he becomes suicidal. >> rick francona, we've seen at least two intercontinental ballistic missile tests launched by north korea with capability to hit los angeles, maybe chicago, elsewhere in the continental united states. but there are some anti-missile systems, the t.h.a.d. system, for example, going up in south korea. how effective would those sys m s...

That the u.s. intelligence community now assesses that north korea has produced nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery to include delivery of these icbm-class missiles. are you surprised? how dangerous is this situation right now? >> i'm not terribly surprised. i think we americans tend to underestimate the capability and intelligence of people in other countries. we're a bit arrogant, at least on the margin. second, i think it's noteworthy that china is stepping up its role as a potential leader in trying to resolve this. joining russia at the u.n. that's noteworthy. these are very gr...