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And we have an incredibly candid and strong relationship. committed to the president, his agenda and our country. even more than he does on twitter, and he is this dumb southerner, couldn't even be a one-person country lawyer down in alabama. the book also asserts there was a practice session to prep the president for a possible interview with bob mueller and it went so badly that the president's advisors were horrified. his personal attorney at the time as they say, don't testify. it's either that or an orange jumpsuit. there was no so-called practice session or reenactment of a mock intervie...

He reenacted a mock interview they conducted with their client. in this mock interview, the president lied, stumbled, contradicted himself, lost his cool. here's what the president's lawyer at the time john dow reportedly told mueller. i'm not going to sit there and let the president look like an idiot and you publish the transcript because everything leaks in ball game and the guys overseas are going to say i told you he was an idiot, i told you he was a gd dumbbell. what are we dealing with this idiot for. he said he told the president don't testify, it is that or an orange jump suit. anybod...

And, sam, how often do you reflect on the fact that the triad we're talking about is trump, giuliani, and someone who was not in the american lexicon or discussion six months ago, avenatti. >> yeah, a fixture of cable news at this point. i couldn't agree more with you. i think about the likelihood that trump will not talk. two reasons. one, an amazing anecdote in "the wall street journal" about what was essentially a mock interview that they ran where he could not get through two questions. and that is troubling enough. >> because of loquaciousness. >> it was like his early debate prep session...

Was not in the american lexicon or discussion six months ago, avenatti. >> yeah, a fixture of cable news at this point. i couldn't agree more with you. i think about the likelihood that trump will not talk. two reasons. one, an amazing anecdote in "the wall street journal" about what was essentially a mock interview that they ran where he could not get through two questions. and that is troubling enough. >> because of loquaciousness. >> it was like his early debate prep sessions. >> the other thing is something that's gone relatively unnoticed, but we're coming up on the one-year anniversary o...

Season premiere of "subpoena." the reality tv show. because willie geist, it is, it's going to be on netflix, it's going to be far more than likely it's going to be a very short, about 13-second version of "peaky blinders" it's going to be violent scene and they're going to say the president has to actually sit for, the deposition. >> then that's the end of their show. >> based on the report about them trying to go through a series of questions in a mock interview with robert mueller, there's a 100% chance that the president of the united states whl would incriminate himself in an interview wi...