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>> in some ways, it's logical to think that if a defendant is going to get a jury to bite on self-defense in a case like this, they have to hear it from the defendant's mouth. but what we hear from the defense lawyer there is, i think, very, i'll say, interesting, alex, for this reason. jury consultants are expensive, and here, they had funds to run not one but two mock juries. kyle rittenhouse got a little bit different of a representation than your average defendant in this sort of setting gets, and so you know, we find ourselves doubling back here on the political context where one party, l...

>> pam, also this interview that kyle rittenhouse did with fox news, the cameras were following him throughout the trial. they were even inside the courthouse on the third floor here where rittenhouse was in a room with his own security and so obviously, the attorney is saying that they had to do this. they were against this and they had to do this because they needed to fund his defense. they had to hire experts and jury consultants and they did two mock juries and all of this cost a lot of money and so the people who were funding it wanted to do that and so that is why they did it, pam. >> s...

N nicole smith case. good to see you again. let's reevaluate. not guilty on all counts but it took days for the jurors to come to that conclusion. what do you think most influenced their decision. >> the testimony of the witnesses and the testimony of the defendant was very powerful. they prepared him. the defense attorney had two mock juries, saying with one that he's going to testify and with another mock jury that he's not going to testify. they spent a fortune on his defense, they spent over $2 million they raised for him or maybe more. they had the best lawyers and money makes a differenc...

Failure. >> if one person's lives, two persons' lives don't matter, none of our cases matter. in this case, it feels like the victims' lives don't matter and i don't think that's acceptable. >> reporter: the person we didn't see after the verdict was kyle rittenhouse himself. the clip that you aired was part of the tucker carlson show aired last night. his attorney told us that kyle rittenhouse has just wanted to get on with his life. would probably move away from this area. we saw as the verdict was being read in the courtroom that rittenhouse and his family really broke down. very emotional ...

Explaining in an interview why he had to do it and take a listen. >> i did not approve of that. i threw him out of the room several times. i don't think a film crew is appropriate. for something like this. but the people who were raising the money to pay for the experts and to pay for the attorneys were trying to raise money and that was part of it. >> and that's really interesting, right? it's like who was paying for it and who was raising the money to do this? to do this film. who was behind all that? we don't know. but clearly, it was something that needed to be done, the attorney said, bec...