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Like things were worse. here is the bottom line, the president last week at that news conference suggested october 1st. rollout. gone forward. this. type white house official a few moments ago told me, look, even before the rollout, they warn that there might be glitches as there are in any rollout of any product and they also take some heart inside the white house that part of what these officials are worried, about the fear that was referred to there was high, heavy traffic on the web site. they did get that as you know and they still think that means that there is a lot of interest in this ...

Democrats and the house and the senate are they shaking at all over this? >> certainly i think those up in red states in 2014 definitely definitely going to move away from obamacare for a while, may stay that way all the way through 2014 fact of the matter is you could have 8 democrats in the senate do that and only up to 56 votes. so you can't get -- you have to be able to override a veto and that's 56 senators. not going to happen. >> 30 seconds left. white house shaking have to make something happen. numbers are troubling. >> thank you. want to see you tomorrow night here at 7 p.m. eastern....

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