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Interest group in the country. >> maybe the money angle is overplayed by the press. certainly it's a concern for the opposition groups. the nr a's last annual revenues were $256 million. the brady center, which is one of the largest, most significant had $3.8 million in the same year. there is a huge gap here. >> we had $10 million last year. and you know, there are really exciting things happening on our side of the issue, not the least of which mayor bloom burr's extraordinary commitment of $50 million. >> do you think that will be a "game change" senator. >> that with the money that gabby g...

Those reading below the fourth grade level at literally 8%. and then you have those between fourth and eighth grade at 60%. here is the bottom line, athletics mean a lot to universities. lot of dollars, especially football, basketball, and some of the -- right? >> tens of millions, there is another money angle for you, this is terrible to me, academics in this country is letting us down. right? because they're treating our student athletes like atms and turning the other way -- >> but the defense of them in spite of that statistic, every single college that i know where they have a high level ...

Those reading below the fourth grade level at literally 8%. and then you have those between fourth and eighth grade at 60%. here is the bottom line, athletics mean a lot to universities. lot of dollars, especially football, basketball, and some of the -- right? >> tens of millions, there is another money angle for you, this is terrible to me, academics in this country is letting us down. right? because they're treating our student athletes like atms and turning the other way -- >> but the defense of them in spite of that statistic, every single college that i know where they have a high level ...

They thought where are we going to get this kind of money? let's rob a bank. >> if all of that sounds bizarre, a cast of characters out of the gang who couldn't shoot straight, to jerry clark it made a perverted kind of sense. especially when it came to ken barnes. someone with a long record of drug abuse who was supposed to be the trigger man. >> if you work law enforcement long enough, you will come across people who will do the most bizarre things you could ever think of that sounds very legitimate and very realistic to them that is really and actually a very bad scheme. >> we also believe ...

He wanted a significant amount down in order to do it. they thought where are we going to get this kind of money? let's rob a bank. >> if all of that sounds bizarre, a cast of characters out of the gang who couldn't shoot straight, to jerry clark it made a perverted kind of sense. especially when it came to ken barnes. someone with a long record of drug abuse who was supposed to be the trigger man. >> if you work law enforcement long enough, you will come across people who will do the most bizarre things you could ever think of that sounds very legitimate and very realistic to them that is rea...