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Luck. i think the pageant itself this specific pageant. gretchenson polite because she was a former miss america. i will be more harsh on this particular side of pageants, solely based on looks, no talent, no leadership characteristics, character development, any other sort of qualities or characteristics that factor into the judging of these girls, that's a wrong message to send to girls. >> bill: i have to defend the message though, hoover, because i got this job solely on looks. [ laughter ] nothing else. >> yeah. >> bill: i cannot be a hypocrite. ladies, thanks as always. >> young girls ar...

Luck. i think the pageant itself this specific pageant. gretchenson polite because she was a former miss america. i will be more harsh on this particular side of pageants, solely based on looks, no talent, no leadership characteristics, character development, any other sort of qualities or characteristics that factor into the judging of these girls, that's a wrong message to send to girls. >> bill: i have to defend the message though, hoover, because i got this job solely on looks. [ laughter ] nothing else. >> yeah. >> bill: i cannot be a hypocrite. ladies, thanks as always. >> young girls ar...