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Bedtime story i believe to his child, talking about build a wall. it didn't surprise me on day one of the general election he decides to use a racial slur and say something that is really awful, monkey it up, and articulate and talk about gillumm in that way. it's an unfortunately i believe it's going to get worse. i think this is just the beginning and i know that the robocall did not come from the campaign. i understand that. and they did -- >> came from -- >> yep. >> fringe group in idaho. >> i totally understand that but when he started off the general election with that slur you give an o...

Who says people are taking their cues from desantis and president trump. do you think it played a role with this white supremacist group putting this robocall out, or do you think even without that ever happening, say we have never had a conversation about this monkey it up, was that going to happen anyway? would we be getting those robocalls? >> my sense is you would. i think even if the intent was not -- even if the republican candidate has said, desantis said this has nothing to do with my campaign, even if you take that at his word, there is a sense that there is an atmosphere where you ar...

Point. it's a bullhorn. the relationship that's often asserted between black people and monkeys in white supremacists' logic is well-known. and very rarely do people use phrases like "monkey it up" in everyday speech. >> michael caputo, should congressman desantis have known better? >> i suspect -- listen, andrew gillum, it surprised everyone. it shocked the world with his come-from-behind victory. i don't think that congressman desantis has faced off against a candidate as promising as andrew gillum. i think he made a mistake with his words. i don't believe for a second that ron desantis is a...

Supremacists' logic is well-known. and very rarely do people use phrases like "monkey it up" in everyday speech. >> michael caputo, should congressman desantis have known better? >> i suspect -- listen, andrew gillum, it surprised everyone. it shocked the world with his come-from-behind victory. i don't think that congressman desantis has faced off against a candidate as promising as andrew gillum. i think he made a mistake with his words. i don't believe for a second that ron desantis is a racist or that he is using racist coded language. i think that's a tactic of the left and the supporters...

Race, but it's because of that that i know socialism won't work in florida. it's not good for any race, color or creed. so this is not about race, it's about ideas and principles. >> here to discuss it with us, donna edwards, and david jolly, of florida. i've spoken to a number of people all day. some people said he should get out of the race and he should apologize, and i spoke to a spokesperson of andrew gillum and said, what do you think ron desantis should do, and he said to me, he should keep talking. >> well, i think he should. here's the thing. i actually spent some time today because i...