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Continue to face morale problems. this offensive, it's begun now self-weeks ago, but the russians till have not moved far out of izium into the donbas area. >> so andrea, you have an update on the diplomatic picture and how russia may be consolidating what they have. the u.s. ambassador said russia wants to hold mock votes in areas they control in ukraine. >> including the osce, where i work as ambassador, has been very clear that such referendum, fabricated votes, will not be considered legitimate, nor will any attempts to annex additional ukrainian territory. but we have to act, we have to a...

Culture of the armed forces is rotten to the core, do you have any reason to believe they're going to be able to start rolling up victories in the east, in the donbas region. >> no, i do not. joe, first of all, let me just tell you, you're talking about kyiv earlier. i think the optimism changed from the west when all the west saw that kyiv wasn't going to fall. you had ukrainian forces doing a pretty good job protecting kyiv. that's when we started to see this turn in the west with optimism. that continues to this day. what i will tell you down in the donbas, what we're seeing is the russians...

Reinvigorated as ever. >> columnist for the "washington post," david ignatius. also professor of history at new york youth, ruth. thank you for being with us. i was talking to richard haass earlier today and general twitty. we find ourselves in this difficult position, i think. i will say, perhaps i'm being a bit too optimistic for the ukrainians, but just as they get -- russians got ran out of the kyiv area, i suspect they're going to have trouble because of their logistical problems, because of their morale problems, because of a military culture that is rotted to the core, and making great ...

And our command have all [ bleep ]'d off, and they abandoned everybody, and [ bleep ]'d off. we don't even know where they are. >> jackals. shoot them and this is it. >> translator: imagine, they did not bring any food stuff. [ bleep ] that. shoot him. quit. >> translator: the first one. >> general, this is suggesting some major morale problems inside of russia's army, and that might have something to do with the atrocities that we are seeing. >> well, i think that is right. again, i would go back to the earlier comment about 20th century warfare for the russians. these are conscripts, and the...

The russian military has obviously been underperforming, they've had logistic problems, supply problems, morale problems. their leadership has been decapitated, five to eight generals have been killed. the ukrainians sunk one of their primary asset ships in the black sea. they're losing a lot of face which puts them in a place of desperation. that's not good for ukraine. that's what you're seeing in mariupol, the pounding and sieging of these cities. to flip that around, zelenskyy and his military commanders need to figure out quickly how to put a strategy in place that carries a vision of the...