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Okay with doing what they believe is the right thing and losing money. they're not afraid of losing businesses that are forcing their ideals or mandating their ideals on a state. if there's money that will be lost -- there will be money lost. that's a large part of the debate you saw in austin in the texas state legislature. a majority of parents say they're fine with losing the money because they're not going to dictate what is safe and what they want for their children -- >> do you really think it's about a safety issue, ben? >> i do. >> the numbers aren't really there. you don't need the nu...

Politician, every presidency to the fire, and to do good reporting, good journalistic work. that is novel, apparently. >> what we of course always want is an adversarial press. we want a press that is skeptical of people who are in power. that is what we want all the time. but, as you guys were discussion, having it be situational and having ups and downs as may be not so good. i also think that what you are seeing here if you have a morality play going on, where the reporters cast themselves in the role of the good guys, trump is the bad guy, they feel vindicated and doing what they want, and...

Politician, every presidency to the fire, and to do good reporting, good journalistic work. that is novel, apparently. >> what we of course always want is an adversarial press. we want a press that is skeptical of people who are in power. that is what we want all the time. but, as you guys were discussion, having it be situational and having ups and downs as may be not so good. i also think that what you are seeing here if you have a morality play going on, where the reporters cast themselves in the role of the good guys, trump is the bad guy, they feel vindicated and doing what they want, and...

Digital presence of donald trump led by brad pasqual, it was under the radar and brilliantly conceived. >> no doubt about it. there was plenty of atmosphere here running against hillary clinton. but, boy. if democrats sit here and just look at the election. >> got to look at the battleground. >> they have to look in the mirror and at the lack of messaging. the things -- the fact that i go back. they designed their whole campaign around trying to disqualify trump personally from the office. making a morality play. obviously you look at it in hindsight and it's crystal clear. of anybody that sho...

Everything here. but pacquiao's most significant accomplishment as a politician in the philippines was denying contraception to poor women. >> that's catholicism, right? >> he said that even though he grew up in poverty with a lot of brothers and sisters, that was a blessing and others should be able to go include that blessing. it's just to say that i find it interesting when people say, i'm for pacquiao because this is a morality play about women's rights, both people's ledger if we want to talk about women's righting being represented in a boxing match. >> could we begin by just saying okay...