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Social conservatives including potential 2016 rivals do disagree with him. >> my views are that we should continue to defend life, and we should continue to defend traditional marriage. >> reporter: but paul buzz is growing neroli voting states like iowa, south carolina and new hampshire where he makes two early visits and two years running he won the straw poll at cpac and has never pulled a punch. >> the gop of old has grown steal and moss-covered. our party is encumbered by an inconsistent approach to freedom. the new gop will need to embrace liberty in both the economic and the personal sp...

Conference. >> the gop of old has grown stale and moss-covered. [ cheers ] i don't think we need to name any names, do we? >> reporter: now, these divisions have become personal lately in the gop, and i think a way, wolf, we don't normally see. but they're substantive divisions as well. how to tackle the issues like immigration reform, things like same-sex marriage. something that's becoming increasingly popular. and, also, how to tackle women's issues in a way that doesn't repel women, as mitt romney did in november. >> lots of work ahead. thanks very much, brianna for that report. the report...

Mid-term. >> who was he referring to? i wonder. how much do you enjoy this? >> you hate to see this fighting inside a party, especially the other party. it is great stuff, but, look, you have chuckleheads, moss-covered and stale. these are three wings of the party and the stale and moss covered and apologizing to the wacko birds which is what john mccain did? >> a party doesn't have the white house tends to have the difficulties and this is nothing new or exceptional. >> the issue is you have the fights in the party but when you have had one, that party tens to lose. we have soon it in the sen...

Liberties. the new g.o.p. reflected by rand paul's willingness to challenge the status quo in both the republican and democratic party is a healthy thing. young people, if particular, are looking for leadership that is willing to challenge the idea that the government is always right. that is where we are, as well. on defense, though, frankly on any budget, any program, any department of the federal government, let's all acknowledge that there is waste and things that need to be eliminated and trimming of defense would be a very healthy thing. you have to puttering on -- put everything on the ...

Saying that the g.o.p. of old has grown stale and moss-covered and there are some who say the g.o.p. should embrace libertarian values. talk about that for a moment, that dialog going on, and is that going to keep the g.o.p. in a holding pattern until actually it does find itself and knows how to brand itself in a way that's going to connect with people to make a difference going forward? >> i think debate is healthy, without any question, debate is healthy. i've learned when we transfer from washington speak to everyday society. america is a very conservative nation and we share values that a...