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She really thought about it. before she came out. some people point to that and say she spent several days looking at her memories that's kind of questionable. what was she doing? others will say, listen, if you're going to make an accusation like this, you should dwell on your memories to make sure you're correct. >> but you -- i'm sorry, you can't rely on it. it's so different than dr. ford's testimony. i mean, it couldn't be more different in how -- >> i don't know. it feels -- i'm sorry. i went to a party college and this sort of scenario happens. >> so did i. but -- >> that's the key. it'...

Regardless of what lawmakers decide the general rule is that the plan has to be revenue neutral for ten years. that will be difficult. i've been watching this moving goalpost. we're going to have a 15% tax rate for companies, a 20%, something around 20%. and a lot of companies don't pay 35% corporate tax rate. >> sure. those large corporations really do. i think the effective rate is 19% ballpark. >> if you lower the tax rate to twenty 20% some might have to play more. >> the white house disagrees on both notions, so hopefully whatever it is they get on the same page before unveiling a bill, b...