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Department and the special counsel and the fbi, the same drum beat that's been going on for a while continually trying to undermine those institutions. >> julia, as a matter of fact and not opinion, given what you've learned about the lines of inquiry, and they are multiples under way in the mueller effort, the president, it would seem, would have a lot to worry about? >> right. brian, i think he's definitely spooked. he's rattled is a word we've been throwing around a lot today. and this reporting from "the new york times," both jeremy's reporting and the reporting with colleagues last night ...

Into it. it's evidence of the obstruction case that we already have that mueller's looking into, it's another piece of that puzzle. here is one so obsessed with the investigation he can't stay out of it. it makes it more likely the time he tried to fire jim comey and tried to fire mueller he was thinking along those lines, too. an attack on the justice department and the special counsel and the fbi, the same drum beat that's been going on for a while continually trying to undermine those institutions. >> julia, as a matter of fact and not opinion, given what you've learned about the lines of i...

>> julia, as a matter of fact and not opinion, given what you've learned about the lines of inquiry, and they are multiples under way in the mueller effort, the president, it would seem, would have a lot to worry about? >> right. brian, i think he's definitely spooked. he's rattled is a word we've been throwing around a lot today. and this reporting from "the new york times," both jeremy's reporting and the reporting with colleagues last night shows a president who is very concerned. it also shows a president who is just shrugging off the advice of his counsel, of his attorneys who are represe...

Up ways to weapon size the information they had stolen. and second on the very same day donald trump said please try to hack hillary clinton's personal servers, that night after hours for the first time the intelligence agency actually tried to engage in a spear fishing attack on hillary clinton's personal server. when katy tur asked he said they probably already have them indicating to the entire world he knew full well what had been briefed to his team and in fact the russian intelligence agencies had ingaugengaged in t hacking. >> there have been 991 separate charges in the mueller effort. ...

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