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On the joint terrorism task force and these days an msnbc national security analyst. thank you so very much for coming in. it struck me and as you sat down i mentioned this, i haven't had the chance in person to ask you about what has also become an attack, an ongoing, slow-rolling attack on the federal bureau of investigation, an institution you love. what do you make of it? who do you blame it on? >> it doesn't serve the american public, i think that's what i don't understand about it. i understand it might serve president trump's interests in terms of this investigation, you know, if he can...

Certainly in the echo chamber are attacking mueller all the time. you're saying that mueller is essentially above reproach both personally and professionally. >> yes. >> is that a smart play politically to be going after mueller this way or not? ent >> i don't think so, i think it's a reactive play, i think that anything that happens will be discredited. as nicole pointed out, this could turn out that mueller exonerates the president and you don't want to attack the man who may exonerate you. and so i don't think it's a good idea, because of that, and second who you're attacking. you're attack...

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