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That's politically impossible for him to do. he's in a difficult situation because he doesn't have that option. he'll be meeting with mueller if mueller wants to meet with him. >> he's running again for election. if you're running for election again, don't ever take the fifth. if you're never running again, it may be the smarter move. >> could be. there would be reasons trying to run out the clock. i think his advisers like roger stone are very worried about weather might do in that interview. part of it could be perjury. i also think part of it could be what you just said, that he didn't know...

Cohesive message. and you wonder how that will play out in terms of the investigation and whether that goes to mueller's favor. >> whether mueller goes after bannon. he was make something explosive comments about money laundering. woe not likely be a target at least for an interview. >> it made me smile when bannon said i'm not testifying before anybody, i'm not giving any statements. i'm thinking he doesn't know what the word subpoena means. he's going before mueller if mueller wants him go before him. no way he's getting around that. if he has information or a belief, for example, what i fou...

>> and mueller's team is paying attention to everything playing out right now. also, you know, there's sort of the idea that it seems like there was not a cohesive strategy here with this book, a cohesive message. and you wonder how that will play out in terms of the investigation and whether that works to mueller's favor. >> whether mueller goes after bannon. bannon was making some pretty explosive comments here about money laundering. would he not likely be a target, at least for an interview. >> it made me smile when bannon said i'm not testifying before anybody, i'm not giving any statemen...