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Testify, the grand jury can then decide who to believe or we don't believe him. the mueller information is moving forward and that's why you are seeing aggravated tweets by the president that seem to be, you know, declaring that there's nothing wrong, that there's no collusion, that the house intelligence committee didn't find anything when, in fact, the house intelligence committee was republicans. kelly: we have yet to hear from the democrat side and everyone looking at this from the special counsel's point of view because that will be the determining factor -- >> i think that's right. i thi...

Attorney for the president john dowd saying he should stop this now in the wake of what's happening with mccabe, is that the right thing to do at this point? isn't that taking to political status? >> it is because the two aren't directly related, yeah, there's a little bit of overlap because mccabe may be called to testify in mueller information. look f your client is under investigation and you're the lawyer, it's not unreasonable to expect that that lawyer to say, hey, stop investigating my client, the other macro issue here is that the republicans face as the democrats a midterm election an...

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