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Today, i was like, they're going to find out they cheated on their insurance policies? that they took money that was more than what they have to spend on it. a lot of people do that. but then i was thinking a lot of people cheat on their taxes also and don't go to jail for it. michael cohen is. yes, he pleaded guilty. if they choose to prosecute you then you have to explain those actions. how deep could this go in your opinion? >> i think it could go deep. i 100% agree with that. i'm not sure i'll be saying this much tonight but i agree with everything he just said. southern district investiga...

Believes me. well, you know, obviously every prosecutor wants to believe their -- any cooperating witness they have but that doesn't really sort of cut it. the question is, is he believable to a federal judge? is he believable to a jury? and i this i the jury is still out on that one. >> bill: on the russia matter there was a lot left on the table. i don't know how much he could talk about that or not. my sense is with the southern district in new york when he said you don't know what else they have essentially what they said. they have a lot more material, my antenna went up trying to think w...

Talked about, and i guarantee you given the people that he hired, that that's eventually what we're going to see. >> chuck rosenberg, one of the things from the sentencing memo last week from the southern district of new york as opposed to the mueller one is that they were not impressed with michael cohen's forthcomingness but to me, and i think we discussed this on air, they seemed to be holding out an advertisement that said, you know you can still talk to us. why do you think he chose not to do that? like could he have bought more time here before he got sentenced? >> in manhattan prosecuto...

Again, the president is and the kavanaugh thing. the president wracking up some wins as you pointed out. also, as mump as the kavanaugh hearings may be mobilizing democratic voters, i think people ought to be cognizant of the possibility that will mobilize republican voters as well as a backlash. i don't know how real that's going to be but i don't think we need to be conscious of that as o possibili as a possibility. >> i think you're right to say that. up next, remember that other big investigation. the mueller one. we have news on that. e mueller . we have news on that introducedu to my par...

Persona, this guccifer 2, that mueller one of his recent indictments has revealed was in fact operated by russian intelligence. so he sort of by almost by accident became the very sort of character that he portray himself as and ultimately be his undoing. >> annie, i have been reading and following you all day. i need you to perform a service on a friday night in august, we send them off into the good night knowing everything there is to know on all of the stories out there. that's where you come in and you get to tell our audience everything they need to know about this new book by omarosa in...