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Sure as the days pass and weeks and months pass that's going to force people into being more strongly for impeachment than they were say when the mueller report first came out so i think that's sort of an interesting -- i don't mean this literally but almost as though the judiciary committee has decided that they are going to really be a grand jury and have secret proceedings in a way before it goes to trial in the senate. my own sense is that every week that goes by in this era is one which feels like an inflection point. the fact that we're just now beginning to make some sense of el paso an...

Both ways. sometimes he gets a boost out of it. in this case he feels like he can control the conversation because it was not the bombastic moment we have been waiting two years for. it is interesting listening to the words he chooses. some are the words of impeachment. high crime. and escalates it to coup, of course. he is trying to bury this as much as he can, be buried at this point. it seems democrats are in a spot where they can't go impeachment runny harder. >> the speaker thinks it's a bad idea. it just plays into the president's hands. let's look at the democrats supporting impeachment...

Mueller report first came out. we lived some with jim comey. there's an idea mcgahn is a complicated witness and doesn't wish the president ill and a republican closely aligned with mitch mcconnell. but saying the president wanted me to do crazy bleep. he was sort of the narrator for the president's misconduct around the russia probe. asked to fire mueller, put out this false denier not accurate. talk about what mcgahn saw. >> this is if there is an impeachment charge of obstruction of justice, he is critical it to. mcdonnell's chief of staff was asked if she was president in the room when mcg...

Joining the program. really appreciate it. >> goodern morning. >> start off with kelly o'donnell left off. she's watching the house oversight committee that contempt vote that we are expecting comes on the heels of the house judiciary committee holding barr as well as former white house counsel don mcgahn, essential essentially centuring them yesterday. what are you witnessing on capitol hill right now? >> i would point you back to when the mueller report first came out, kristen. journalists like you were asking us, well, when would you move on? how long will you keep on sort of saying there i...

And it's one at least right now that is beginning to breakthrough. >> thank you, michael. >> it's going to be interesting. so many people on the race with similar plans and she's pushing hard. >> there are a few of them who have written out their stuff. amy klobuchar has done some of that. andrew yang has written a book about all of his -- his website is 400 pages of detailed stuff. for policy wonks, there's stuff out there. >> if there's 400 pages that people are going to read, i'd say go with the mueller report first. >> is presidential adviser and son-in-law jared kushner being influenced b...