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P pos. they don't want to got done this road of interesting to addressed have and i get ben smith's point and the reporter who roo pond the serious. they strong we will see the fact a pan. >> in the wake of this story, we saw a pig fly in washington, we saw the president praise the special counsel and i'm kind of curious that you think that something does that change the direction of poll tex at all in the future? >> i don't think it going to change the policyin his case he

For a permanent daca fix. so no longer is this an immortality that we can even countenance, it is part of a broader negotiation. the fact this this is all happening in public means we are still at the posturing stage, but that to me is some movement. >> yeah, and heidi przybyla, what are you looking at today in terms of how democrats will be moving forward with this and at this point where does the state of the union stand? >> mika, i reached out to some moderate democrats in the senate because clearly this was an attempt to move this issue over to the senate. my reporting is that mitch mcconn...

Proposal as part of a genuine negotiation being a starting point, but not as a kind of a unilateral offer thrown at democrats not part of a conversation. again, this is nowhere close to where the ending point would have to be, but you can imagine sitting around a table with democrats and republicans and the white house and maybe having this as the starting point for the beginning of a negotiation over the course of several days, but i think, as i say, democrats were -- i was a little surprised by just how forcefully and quickly they rejected it pretty much out of hand. >> yeah, nick confessore...

Negotiation. at this point, we're not even there yet and the specifics are very far apart in terms of the daca deal. so when is that halfway measure going to materialize? doesn't see it yet. >> reverend al, taclk to me abot the daca offer. >> it's not an offer at all. when the president says i'm going to give three years here, when you look at the fact in three years he will, if he survives the mueller investigation, he'll be reasunn for president, there is no stability there. the thing that hits home on martin luther king day is we're acting look 800,000 people are not sitting there wondering...

But that's not to be a lengthy process and president trump must open up government. >> yamiche. >> congressman brown, i have a question about the white house's strategy here. i was in a meeting with vice president pence where he said white house officials have been talking to rank and file democrats to see if they essentially can pick off some of the support from nancy pelosi and-check assumer. do you ge a-- i think the president mischaracterized the involvement of democrats at this point. he had some rank-and-file democratss have it the white house. two days ago they democrats put it reject t...