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Out some hope that if indeed don mcgann does testify, and actually speaks rather than invoking either executive privilege for the fifth amendment, that they have an opportunity should there actually be some revelation that comes out, they want to reserve the right to be able to circle back and proceed with an additional article of impeachment. that being said, look, i do think that the american public already has investigation fatigue. that is one of the reasons why the mueller stuff was not included in the first place. but if something comes out, and i think that there is an argument to be ma...

Fit tomorrow at the hearing, so what kind of irrational, crazy statement is he going make tomorrow? what kind of new policy is he going to propose on the fly? all of this, to me, creates an incredible sense of urgency for why we need to put a halt to this behavior right now. now, whether that leads to impeachment, what articles we introduce and all of that, that remains to be scene. >> steve. >> congresswoman, it's steve rattner. you made the point that the stuff around the mueller report really relates to what happened in the last election, whereas, was happening with ukraine relates to what'...

The question you eloquently framed here, which i think is on many viewers' minds, if you remember all the mueller stuff, is what is this, how is it different? and i would venture an answer in three ways. number one, the mueller underlying crimes, meaning the bad stuff, not the cover-up alleged afterwards, were all prepresidential. very hard to remove or impeach a president for things that happened before they became president. number two, it was all about basically what other people said, because you had no public fact witnesses. the two people we're about to hear from are fact witnesses. they...

States or by reporters here at the capital to engage with some of the really damning allegations on the house side, they're resorting to, it was behind closed doors. there hand been a vote on the floor yet without being able to really engage the substantial. they don't want as one person described it, pour concrete over their ankles and get stuck. >> and you have a situation, democrats don't know necessarily which box they're opening. it will be interesting to see the scope. republicans don't know either. we've had several weeks of the first sustained deposed testimony about this president tha...

The capitol to engage with some of the really damning allegations on the house side, they're resorting to, it was behind closed doors. oh, there hasn't been a vote on the floor yet. without being able to really engage the substantial. they don't want as one person described it, pour concrete over their ankles and get stuck. >> and you have a situation, democrats don't know necessarily which box they're opening. although the scope, it will be interesting to see what the scope says of this inquiry. republicans don't know either. we've had several weeks of the first sustained deposed testimony ab...